NEW LASER CUT MG42 REAR RECEIVERS

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mauser wrote: just like you i want a ready to go rear receiver ready for my kit without messing around with bending and ect...thanks

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mauser wrote:i got a excellent brake and a 1.5 million laser cuting machine at my disposal so i will be fixing this silly drout of kits without a rear receiver...
I like your attitude. "Head 'em up, Move 'em out!" :D

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Are we going to be able get them down here to the US??
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Guys,

I know this post will receive some heat but I think you should know that even un-welded flats would be considered gun parts and would have to be imported on a Form 6. Shipping gun parts across international borders is serious business.

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27 CFR Part 447

http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pub/2 ... art447.pdf

§ 447.2 Relation to other laws and
regulations.
(a) All of those items on the U.S.
Munitions Import List (see § 447.21)
which are “firearms” or “ammunition”
as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)
are subject to the interstate and foreign
commerce controls contained in
Chapter 44 of Title 18 U.S.C. and 27
CFR Part 478 and if they are “firearms”
within the definition set out in
26 U.S.C. 5845(a) are also subject to
the provisions of 27 CFR Part 479.
Any person engaged in the business
of importing firearms or ammunition
as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a) must
obtain a license under the provisions
of 27 CFR Part 478, and if he imports
firearms which fall within the definition
of 26 U.S.C. 5845(a) must also register
and pay special tax pursuant to
the provisions of 27 CFR Part 479.
Such licensing, registration and special
tax requirements are in addition to
registration under subpart D of this
part.
(b) The permit procedures of sub102
part E of this part are applicable to all
importations of articles on the U.S.
Munitions Import List not subject to
controls under 27 CFR Part 478 or
479. U.S. Munitions Import List articles
subject to controls under 27 CFR
Part 478 or 27 CFR Part 479 are subject
to the import permit procedures of
those regulations if imported into the
United States (within the meaning of
27 CFR Parts 478 and 479).
(c) Articles on the U.S. Munitions
Import List imported for the United
States or any State or political subdivision
thereof are exempt from the
import controls of 27 CFR Part 478
but are not exempt from control under
Section 38, Arms Export Control Act
of 1976, unless imported by the
United States or any agency thereof.
All such importations not imported by
the United States or any agency
thereof shall be subject to the import
permit procedures of subpart E of this
part.
(d) For provisions requiring the
registration of persons engaged in the
business of brokering activities with
respect to the importation of any defense
article or defense service, see
Department of State regulations in 22
CFR Part 129.
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Well that's yet another bummer.

mauser, if you can't export them and after you proof your part, do you think you could provide the punch program and a tooling list so we can get some made here in the states? I'm sure we could all chip in and get you some money for your work. I know you put allot of work into it so it's perfectly understandable if you don't want to. I know a small local shop that would cut and bend but to do the proofing and prototyping is expensive.

I don't know the legalities so please fill me in guys. Is it a pipe dream?

Thanks for your efforts.
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Hopefully after spending the time and money to get this far,Mauser won't just give up on this.I would imagine that this has been thought out before this.Anyone putting this much effort in a project would have thought it through to the end.[you did,didn't you?]. ---bil
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762x51 wrote:Guys,

I know this post will receive some heat but I think you should know that even un-welded flats would be considered gun parts and would have to be imported on a Form 6. Shipping gun parts across international borders is serious business.

Regards,
Orin

27 CFR Part 447

http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pub/2 ... art447.pdf

§ 447.2 Relation to other laws and
regulations.

(a) All of those items on the U.S.
Munitions Import List (see § 447.21)
which are “firearms” .....
as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)

are subject to the interstate and foreign
commerce controls contained in
Chapter 44 of Title 18 U.S.C. and 27
CFR Part 478 and if they are “firearms”
within the definition set out in
26 U.S.C. 5845(a) are also subject to
the provisions of 27 CFR Part 479.
I think you may be extending the law further than it should be Orin. How can a flat piece of metal be controlled under CFR 447, without every piece of scrap metal imported also falling under it?

The piece of metal in question , is not a firearm, has never been a firearm , and i don't believe can be made into a firearm without the other 50+/- % of the shroud piece and a large bit of work here in the U.S. .

Yes it could be used to make a semiauto rifle , yes it WILL BE a percentage of the finished receiver, but if its not a receiver yet its not an object controlled under CFR 447.

447.41 (C)
A permit is not required for the importation of -
(2) Minor components and parts .... except barrels,cylinders,receivers, and complete breech mechinisms..........(less than $100 USD)

just because it WILL/MIGHT be part of a receiver in the future doesn't mean it automatically falls under 447.

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Perhaps approach it as an inoperable receiver repair section. I am reluctant to say (dummy),
but, I wonder what sort of angle could be best taken.

I don't know how far this could be taken once across the border.
I imagine there would be a lot of scrutiny involved, but
where there's a will there's a way.
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drooling idiot wrote: I think you may be extending the law further than it should be Orin. How can a flat piece of metal be controlled under CFR 447, without every piece of scrap metal imported also falling under it?

The piece of metal in question , is not a firearm, has never been a firearm , and i don't believe can be made into a firearm without the other 50+/- % of the shroud piece and a large bit of work here in the U.S. .

Yes it could be used to make a semiauto rifle , yes it WILL BE a percentage of the finished receiver, but if its not a receiver yet its not an object controlled under CFR 447.

447.41 (C)
A permit is not required for the importation of -
(2) Minor components and parts .... except barrels,cylinders,receivers, and complete breech mechinisms..........(less than $100 USD)

just because it WILL/MIGHT be part of a receiver in the future doesn't mean it automatically falls under 447.

MY OPINION
May I suggest that you contact these folks for a clarification of what is legal and what is illegal prior to importing any firearm parts:

Firearms Technology Branch
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
244 Needy Road
Martinsburg, WV 25401

Phone: 304-260-5476

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hello everyone,
first off i must say i have done my homework and know what is legel in your country and have no itension of stoping now when im ready to share this missing link with you .we can quote goverment all day but you and i know what you can receive and can not ,44.this and 44..that ..dont stress or worry .my goal is all to enjoy this awsome gun sa or auto where ever

where it stands my product will be as follows.....rear receiver up to back sight including ,cam sections cut,all holes cut,rachiet plate installed ,ejection port not cutbut eched with laser so you know what has to go as well as the trigger group the same not cut but eched,no rails ,no buffer tabs and no grip stick mount..all raised parts will be done also.all is bent and welded ready for your kit

by tuesday at the latest i will have pics of the finished product ready for ordering thanks ..mauser :D
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In like Flint 8)
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Whats the price on your product????Can't wait!!!! :D
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It's a paperweight. I'll take 5 please! PICs when you get the time please!
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I want one OR TWO!! PLEASE!!!
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Did I miss the expected price somewhere?
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No price on these yet.Too much yelling going on overhead! I wish I could sell stuff this fast without a price! :D Hopefully for carlque it isn't in the millions! :? ---bil
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mauser wrote:hello everyone,
first off i must say i have done my homework and know what is legel in your country and have no itension of stoping now when im ready to share this missing link with you .we can quote goverment all day but you and i know what you can receive and can not ,44.this and 44..that ..dont stress or worry .my goal is all to enjoy this awsome gun sa or auto where ever

where it stands my product will be as follows.....rear receiver up to back sight including ,cam sections cut,all holes cut,rachiet plate installed ,ejection port not cutbut eched with laser so you know what has to go as well as the trigger group the same not cut but eched,no rails ,no buffer tabs and no grip stick mount..all raised parts will be done also.all is bent and welded ready for your kit

by tuesday at the latest i will have pics of the finished product ready for ordering thanks ..mauser :D
All this and not stamped "Made in china"? Sounds too good to be true :lol:



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And another person sees a need and fills it. Sounds almost too good to be true. But the price, what is the price. If reasonable they will sell very well. I have a Yugo parts kit that needs the rear receiver and this may fill that need.
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mauser,

Before you get too far into it remember the m53 and mg42 receivers are not compatible at the ass end so recoil buffer and stocks are not interchangeable between the two. I think most of the kits people have are m53 so think about designing it after that. I don't know all the details other than what I've read on this site.

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