PROGRESS ON SCRATCH BUILT MG-47
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PROGRESS ON SCRATCH BUILT MG-47
HERE ARE SOME MORE PICTURES OF THE PROGERSS I MADE THIS WEEK END ON MY SCRATCH BUILT RECEIVER A-47/MG3/FAL. CHRISENED MG-47 BY MY DAUGHTER. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A EXPERIMANTAL PROTOTYPE. AFTER I GET EVERY THING TO WORK THEN I WILL PUT A DECENT FINISH ON IT. YOU CAN SEE MORE IMAGES OF IT ON MY OTHER POSTINGS.
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PROGRESS WAS SLOWED BECAUSE I SPENT SATURDAY INSTALLING A NEW HARBOR FREIGHT 13X40 LATHE TO REPLACE MY 80 YEAR OLD LOGAN 10X24 LATHE.
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PROGRESS WAS SLOWED BECAUSE I SPENT SATURDAY INSTALLING A NEW HARBOR FREIGHT 13X40 LATHE TO REPLACE MY 80 YEAR OLD LOGAN 10X24 LATHE.
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- ADDED AN OPERATING HANDLE
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- REDUCED THE FEED PAWL TO FEED TRAY DISTANCE.
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- EJECTION OPENING VIEW AND FEED TRAY.
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MG-47 SCRATCH BUILT RECEIVER
THE TRIGGER , SEAR & HAMMER ARE FAL. LOOK AT MY FIRST POSTING FOR SCRACTH BUILT RECEIVCER. IT HAS AN IMAGE FOR THE GRIP STICK WITH THE FAL PARTS INSTALLED.
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FCG working
This weekend I got the fire control group working. I milled a slot for the FAL hammer in the extension piece I welded to the back of the stock ak-47 bolt. I then made a new firing pin slightly longer that the stock AK pin with a shoulder on it for a firing pin return spring to prevent a slam fire. At first it took 2 hits of the hammer to set off a primer. I turned the shoulder down to reduce the weight and it works fine now. I will post some imaged of what I did A.S.A.P.
I tried an AK bolt carrier return spring but it wasn't strong enough to strip a dummy cartridge from the belt. I then tried a FAL carrier return spring. Better but still not strong enough. I bid on and won a M-60 spring on G.B. and it should be strong enough. Should receive it this week. Just have to make room for it by opening up the hole in the butt stock and turning a new end for the bolt carrier end and welding it to the bolt carrier.
I will keep posting up dates as I make them and get some images attached.
I tried an AK bolt carrier return spring but it wasn't strong enough to strip a dummy cartridge from the belt. I then tried a FAL carrier return spring. Better but still not strong enough. I bid on and won a M-60 spring on G.B. and it should be strong enough. Should receive it this week. Just have to make room for it by opening up the hole in the butt stock and turning a new end for the bolt carrier end and welding it to the bolt carrier.
I will keep posting up dates as I make them and get some images attached.
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- cocking handle attached
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Will be interesting to see if there are problems feeding and ejecting from the same side. Do you think a 50 round drum will get in the way of the ejection port?
A doppeltrommel would be out of the question.
I know it was not used on the 42 but if he had a 34 top cover.....
My old Romy kit and 34 parts are making me think too.
A doppeltrommel would be out of the question.

My old Romy kit and 34 parts are making me think too.
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mg47 Project
Cycling by hand has not presented any ejection problems so far. It ejects very low through the ejection port below the feed tray. Throws the cases about 30 degrees form vertical downward. I have a small round metal container about 4 inches in diameter with a snap on lid that I plan to make a feed drum out of. I should sit high enough above the ejection port to not present any problems.
(Bil, Is my typing still O.K.? Can you still hear me?)
(Bil, Is my typing still O.K.? Can you still hear me?)
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Perhaps he doesn't quite understand what your implying. As an internet refresher course: Typing in capital letters is normally used to denote shouting.Bil wrote:I can still hear you,I have to turn up the sound on my keyboard.But now I dont recognize your posts from across the room.I see that you can still shout when needed.The gun looks good! ---bil
It's better to be silent and considered a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
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Spade Grips on my MG47
Actually, the gun is smaller than it looks. It is quit portable and can be easily fired from the shoulder. I intend to put a bi-pod on it latter. It is way lighter than a MG42 with a bi-pod. I weights about 13 pounds so it is easy enough to carry with a sling or Johnny Rambo like.
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Reminds me of the M249 SAW.
Through many dangers, toils and snares
I have already come;
'Tis Grace that brought me safe thus far
and Grace will lead me home.
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MG47
What it looks like is purelly a coincendence. I was not trying for any particular look, just a functioning belt feed 7.62x39. I need to post more pics of the recent progress but it seem I never have the time. With tweeking and installing a M60 recoil spring, it feeds and ejects blanks very well. Next step is to make a new gas tube to convert it from a short impulse to a long impulse action in order to have enough poop to throw the heaver bolt all the way back and operate the feed cam at the same time. Fun stuff for my new Hobo Freight lathe.
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(Boy I wish I could SPELL!!!


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MG47 Progress
I finially got the material for a new gas tube and got it bored out last night. I removed the gas block and machined off the existing gas relief holes. I will drill several gas bleed off holes along the new gas tube and make a split sleeve that slides over the outside of the gas tube so I can adjust the point the gas pressure is relieved from the piston face. I then need to mate it with the back portion of the standard ak-47 gas tube. Once I test fire it and find the optimal gas relief point, where the bolt carrier cycles all the way back, I can clamp the adjustment sleeve so it doesn't move. That's the idea anyway. I know I need to post more pictures but I can't seem to find the time and the progress I have made since my last pictures doesn't really show up on pictures. Once I get the gas tube and it's adjustment sleeve done I will post pictures of the adjustable gas tube and then it's TEST SHOOTING TIME!



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MG47 Latest pictures of progress
Here is some pictures of the latest progress I have made on my MG47 (belt feed AK). I modified the standard AK gas block by cutting off the gas relief holes and turning the neck down concentric with the inside diameter. I made a new heavy wall gas tube with the gas relief holes where the gas piston almost reaches the end of it's rearward travel. I then cut the standard AK gas tube in half and welded it to the new forward section.
For a safety, I made a pin about 3/8" in diameter with a slot in it that the back of the FAL trigger spring plunger rides in. In the safe mode, safety to the right, the trigger plunger bottoms out in the slot preventing the trigger from moving. By pushing the safety to the left the back of the trigger spring plunger can fall into a deeper slot in the pin and allow the trigger to move the sear and drop the hammer. There is a torsion spring end that falls into 2 knotches in the safety pin to hold it in safe mode or fire mode.
IT'S READY TO TEST FIRE NOW!!!!!
. Got to wait to next weekend cause I got to go to Toronto on busness this week and won't be back until Firday. 
For a safety, I made a pin about 3/8" in diameter with a slot in it that the back of the FAL trigger spring plunger rides in. In the safe mode, safety to the right, the trigger plunger bottoms out in the slot preventing the trigger from moving. By pushing the safety to the left the back of the trigger spring plunger can fall into a deeper slot in the pin and allow the trigger to move the sear and drop the hammer. There is a torsion spring end that falls into 2 knotches in the safety pin to hold it in safe mode or fire mode.
IT'S READY TO TEST FIRE NOW!!!!!



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- gas tube and standard gas block next to the modified gas block.
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- new gas stube installed. Notice new gas relief ports.
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- view of the safety installed and in the fire mode. Torsion spring end in knotch to hold it in FIRE mode. OUCH, SCRAPPED KNUCKLE!
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- FAL trigger spring plunger in the slot in the safety plunger in the safe mode.
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- FAL trigger spring plunger in the deep slot in the safety plunger allowing the trigger to move and fire
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