park blue magneese finishing

Post by **TOM R** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:00 am

ok we are getting close to finishing these so here it goes who has the best bluing solution, park, and mageneese?????

Karbinator · Post by **Karbinator** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:17 am

I need to know this as well Tom. I wanted to have a Dark grey phos., or Blued .... I wonder how it would do cold blued?

Post by **Pirate** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:51 pm

shooters solutionions has excellent parkerizing solutions. they also have bluing I think.
Caswell plating has a black oxide solution that is a good pre black for parking

shootersolutions.com
caswellplating.com

Post by **glassmountains** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:53 pm

I am set up to either blue or parkerize. I can charge a fee or trade out for work on the components to be modified to semi. PM me and LMK.

Post by **TOM R** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:00 pm

I am also set up with 6 defferent size stainless tanks one large enough for a 1919 with shroud installed so a m2hb box will fit here too and I got round burners strip burners a 1 million btu burner just need best source for best chemicals cause when i fire up I will be doing probly 4 mg42 in blue plus other micelanious stuff, yours is a good offer for anyone needing 1 gun done

Jason · Post by **Jason** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:57 pm

try http://www.brownells.com

I have both zinc and mag phosphate and they have never let me down.

on my 42 I used duracoat on the reciever and zinc parked the top cover and a few other parts. I know it is not they way they were originally finished but I think it looks bad ass.

fxo · Post by **fxo** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:34 am

Palmetto Armoury in NC or SC sells a mil-spec concentrate. You don't need to do a pre-dip for black manganese. Its like $16.95/qt plus shipping.

Abwehr · Post by **Abwehr** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:27 am

Palmetto Armory is located in Greenville, SC and I have heard nothing but GOOD results from their products. I work in Greenville, but am out of town till Friday, or I would get their address and telelphone number. If you do a search, you should be able to find their website and get the contact info.

Post by **stifeout** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:06 am

Hi guys what is the corrct finish for the ww2 mg42? I have some rec pieces I recieved from Brian and some have a definite bluing and some appear black parkerized....Which is correct ?

Post by **TOM R** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:18 pm

what i realy need is bluing

fxo · Post by **fxo** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:40 pm

Try http://www.unibath.com

Its expensive but less work.

Post by **glassmountains** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:37 pm

TOM R wrote:I am also set up with 6 defferent size stainless tanks one large enough for a 1919 with shroud installed so a m2hb box will fit here too and I got round burners strip burners a 1 million btu burner just need best source for best chemicals cause when i fire up I will be doing probly 4 mg42 in blue plus other micelanious stuff, yours is a good offer for anyone needing 1 gun done

Bluing or black oxiding requires carbon steel tanks, not stainless. Also your bath must have the right balance of chemicals and water. Your temperature will have to be held at between 290 & 300 without boiling over. Also you will need another tank for the soap solution, another for boilout and another for the water displacing oil. If you are not set up to do it correctly, and it should be done this way per specs, then you will end up spending 1000.00 +- for the equipment and chemicals, shipping and haz mat fees. I have been doing this for 25 years and still don't know all the tricks. Parkerizing you can do with the equipment you have. What you need to get is a zinc or manganese phosphate concentrate. Zinc is a light greay and Manganese is dark grey to black. You can buy it in small quantities from Brownells. You can also check out the bluing supplies they have.

Post by **Daskraut** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:21 pm

Ok, for the dingbats

that are new to this blueing and parkerizing thing, how bout some pics of the differences cosmetically?, all my MG42 and MG1 stuff has been black as a desert night.

Post by **TOM R** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:54 pm

thats alot of money

think I will cold blue, I have done this before and it is simple with perfect results first time looks great and lasts

need to find where to get it again

Post by **Reichpapers** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:28 pm

If you take the MG, and let it sit in Brownell's "Steel White" until all of the old finish is off....the steel will turn a dull grey. If you blue the metal in this condition, it will turn a matt black, very similar to the look of black park....like many of the russian K98 refurbs.

Post by **TOM R** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:31 pm

we are gonna put these in a blast cabinet and i got some black magneese park and grey park, but want it blued to match the balance of parts

Karbinator · Post by **Karbinator** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:38 pm

Cold Blue............

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/Store/ ... T+GUN+BLUE

www.MG42.us

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