coldsteel solutions incorporated MG42 receiver blanks
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coldsteel, the updated pics definitly answer alot of questions about your product, thanks for the updates
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Ok, I admit that I am still a for builds, so I hope I get to ask some dumb questions.
Who has placed their orders for the CS 80% rcvr already?
Has anyone gotten theirs and started their build.
I have been reading everypost for the last 3-4 months now, and a lot of talented people are building their SA42s from
3 or 4 cut MG42 receivers, but I have seen no one building from an 80% rcvr.
Now, don't get me wrong, the info from these cut mg42 rcvrs is absolutely great stuff and I am in awe of some of the talent here. And it will still be useful info when I weld up the front end of my shroud and the rear to someones 80% rcvr.
But, for me, I am ready to buy an 80% rcvr and was kinda waiting to see others buy one first. Just to confirm by someone
smarter than me, that the piece is a "good" one. THe CS one, (with the new pictures) looks great, and looks like even I could do
a build with it.
But, can CS or someone now reconfirm what the 80% rcvr will look like "as shipped." I think the recent pics have a LOT more hole, cuts, etc. than the original (poor looking) picture that I saw about 1-2 months ago of a very plain looking piece with nothing cut or drilled.
If the $375 is for the piece in the most recent pictures above, why has no one jumped on buying one yet? And with 3&4 cut MG42 rcvrs still getting $1200-1800, this seems like a good deal.
Again, I apologize for the simple questions.....
Who has placed their orders for the CS 80% rcvr already?
Has anyone gotten theirs and started their build.
I have been reading everypost for the last 3-4 months now, and a lot of talented people are building their SA42s from
3 or 4 cut MG42 receivers, but I have seen no one building from an 80% rcvr.
Now, don't get me wrong, the info from these cut mg42 rcvrs is absolutely great stuff and I am in awe of some of the talent here. And it will still be useful info when I weld up the front end of my shroud and the rear to someones 80% rcvr.
But, for me, I am ready to buy an 80% rcvr and was kinda waiting to see others buy one first. Just to confirm by someone
smarter than me, that the piece is a "good" one. THe CS one, (with the new pictures) looks great, and looks like even I could do
a build with it.
But, can CS or someone now reconfirm what the 80% rcvr will look like "as shipped." I think the recent pics have a LOT more hole, cuts, etc. than the original (poor looking) picture that I saw about 1-2 months ago of a very plain looking piece with nothing cut or drilled.
If the $375 is for the piece in the most recent pictures above, why has no one jumped on buying one yet? And with 3&4 cut MG42 rcvrs still getting $1200-1800, this seems like a good deal.
Again, I apologize for the simple questions.....
My mistake, I should have said an 80% "rear" receiver piece. I realize that technically the whole piece from barrel bushing to the buffer is "the reciever."
But I was speaking in terms of everyone that just got the kits that Sarco and others have sold. These kits all have the front "shroud" section of the receiver, so we are all looking for just the rear section (from camming to rear buffer end) back. So, maybe this means that the rear reciever piece will never really be called an 80% receiver, regardless of how many holes and slots are pre-drilled???? Is it a 40% receiver???
And yes, there is a smaller "camming section" of receiver is being sold by Wiselite. Pirate and others are posting information about that piece. But I am assuming that this is only for people with the 3 or 4 cut receivers that just have some really bad cutting/torching jobs on their pieces near the camming section.
For the Sarco kit crowd, we need this "rear section" piece.
So, to help us all, maybe Cold Steel will do us the favor of simply posting 4 pictures of their "as shipped" piece, one picture per side. Their web site pics are still very bad. This would clear everything up. AND, i would be sending them my money tomorrow.
But I was speaking in terms of everyone that just got the kits that Sarco and others have sold. These kits all have the front "shroud" section of the receiver, so we are all looking for just the rear section (from camming to rear buffer end) back. So, maybe this means that the rear reciever piece will never really be called an 80% receiver, regardless of how many holes and slots are pre-drilled???? Is it a 40% receiver???
And yes, there is a smaller "camming section" of receiver is being sold by Wiselite. Pirate and others are posting information about that piece. But I am assuming that this is only for people with the 3 or 4 cut receivers that just have some really bad cutting/torching jobs on their pieces near the camming section.
For the Sarco kit crowd, we need this "rear section" piece.
So, to help us all, maybe Cold Steel will do us the favor of simply posting 4 pictures of their "as shipped" piece, one picture per side. Their web site pics are still very bad. This would clear everything up. AND, i would be sending them my money tomorrow.
Are the CS and Wiselite pieces even available for private purchase yet? Last I heard, the Wiselite receiver sections were being first allocated to the company who actually paid for the die. And I THOUGHT I heard that the CS receiver stampings were still a couple of months away from general availability. I may be wrong on all of this -- the memory cells don't work as good as they used to.
In any case, I think the testimonials that have been posted here regarding the quality of CS's and Wiselite's other products indicate that one could buy either of them with confidence. Read Pirate's tutorial on building the Wiselite camming section. He's highly impressed by the quality of that piece.
I think that the Arizona Group placed orders for these parts as soon as they were announced, but I haven't seen any posts from them in quite a while. They said they would be posting progress reports on their builds. Where are you, Arizona Group??????
GeeDeeEmm
In any case, I think the testimonials that have been posted here regarding the quality of CS's and Wiselite's other products indicate that one could buy either of them with confidence. Read Pirate's tutorial on building the Wiselite camming section. He's highly impressed by the quality of that piece.
I think that the Arizona Group placed orders for these parts as soon as they were announced, but I haven't seen any posts from them in quite a while. They said they would be posting progress reports on their builds. Where are you, Arizona Group??????
GeeDeeEmm
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I was in contact with one of the az. guys last night-they have ordered the CSS receiver to do a trial build,but it hasn't arrived yet.I don't know when they ordered it.They will keep me/us posted on it when it arrives.They have built a lot of interesting stuff,I am looking forward to hearing what they think of this receiver.The wise-lite receiver looks good too,but I think it will be a while before we get them,as the main client has to have his needs satisfied before we will get them. ---bil
Thanks Britcopinaz. I and others will be waiting patiently.Britcopinaz wrote:We are still waiting for the CS receiver
as soon as it arrives i'll post pics on the forum so you guys can decide to buy or not.
We will also do a build tutorial so everyone can learn from our mistakes
Their site says 4-6 weeks delivery. Is that what you are planning on? What they promised?
Re: Receiver Blank
Yeah right! You guys need to be less exited about this. Cold Steel is "one" guy working in his garage banging recievers the old school way. This person will take your money before he even starts building a receiver, and trust me the receiver is made by some primitive tools, it will not look nice. While back I ordered AK47 receiver from him, he charged me right away but I got the receiver after 5 weeks and it did not look good at all and I was not happy about it. After telling him that am not happy about it he attacked me saying that I don't know what %80 receiver is. And that he will refund me money 3 weeks after he receivs the product back WOW! I had to call my CC company to despute it because am not waiting 3 weeks to get my money back. I still got the e-mails, I will post them here:coldsteel wrote:Hello fellow builders we are now branching out from the AK blanks to the MG42 blanks.
We thought that you might like a little info on us.
We are a small shop that is motivated by a love of what we do, the business that we have is a mom and pop run shop. Our products are made one at a time by hand and we back our products with our guarentee that the products are buildable and that if there is any problem, let me say that again (if there is any problem with the blank like to short or in any way unusable) we will work with you to correct the problem up to and encluding replacement or a refund.
We are like you we want what we ordered because money doesnt grow on trees and this hobby of building our own weapons is exspensive and time consuming so please understand that we are small and that our focuse is on the customer and on your product.
We do this because we love what we do and we are always here in the shop and we always answer our email and in most cases we answer them the same day.
Our MG42 is made out of .100 4130 sheet steel and the blank is made from eight seperate dies for small parts and for straightness. We were not interested orignialy in this blank because of its need for multi piece dies, but we were asked more times that I can count if we were planning to develop this blank. So we went for it. It is tough, slow and down right fun when we set up for it.
Well basically we want you to know that we will work with you on everything that we can and that we are always open and reseptive to constructive critisisem
CM*Coldsteel http://www.coldsteelsolutionsincorporated.com and coldsteel579@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:34:32 -0500
No, when you order off the site your credit card is charged immediately. When you pay for your order it is then put on our work log. Our orders ship within four weeks of order date, usually sooner but during the holiday months it has been crazy busy and has been taking the full four weeks. Our site reflects that orders ship within four weeks of payment as does your receipt for ordering when you complete your order. No, we dont "stock" items ready to ship. We stock the flat steel ready to bend and make the blanks as they are ordered the way they are ordered. If you are concerned with our way of business or its not for you we would be happy to send you a refund, just let us know.
CM(Coldsteel)
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To: <coldsteel579@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Hi! Shipping questions
I received your so called receiver and all I can tell you that is worthless putting my nice Yugo kit on this poorly made %80 receiver. The rails are not even made right and need so much work to make it work. The bend of the receiver is dool and mag dimples are a joke. I will like to return this and get my full refund back of $61.
Let me know to what address do I ship it back.
Ned
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Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:04:47 -0500
We have sold hundreds and hundreds of these and for five years. Obviously you dont have the proper knowledge or know how to do a build off of an 80% blank. But your inexperience is not an excuse to be rude which you have been since the beginning of this transaction. Return our products and we will send you a refund and part company. Once our products are recieved you will receive a refund within two to three weeks, shipping charges are nonrefundable. Please do not contact us again as we do not wish to do business with you.
CM*Coldsteel
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Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: Hi! Shipping questions
gunco.net has a thread on your receivers and how poorly they fit trunions. I have built few AKs before and I know what am doing. I will ship this monday via usps priority and you will get it fast. There is no need to wait another few weeks to get refund, it should be done emidiately, don't be a shady guy dude.
Ned
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Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:40 AM
As our return policy CLEARLY states, any refunds will be refunded within two to three weeks and we reserve the right to do business only with honorable people. We are not, nor have we ever been "shady". Go ahead and send your order back and you WILL recieve your refund according to our company policy. And we are exercising our right to not do business with you in the future so your information on our site will be deleted upon the completion of your return/refund. Again, there is no reason to contact us anymore as there is nothing left to say.
CM(Coldsteel)
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I doubt the quality of cold steel products and it is my personal opinion, please don't get me wrong here am just posting my personal experience and opinion.
Thats because the guy takes your money in advance to fund the build he is banging the old school way with basic tools thats why it takes so much time for you to get it. And when you get it it will not be a pritty site. MGs are temperamental if you don't get the receiver built just right the bolt won't cycle. But looks like he is the only guy making receivers now so you got no other alternative.Traveler57 wrote:Thanks Britcopinaz. I and others will be waiting patiently.Britcopinaz wrote:We are still waiting for the CS receiver
as soon as it arrives i'll post pics on the forum so you guys can decide to buy or not.
We will also do a build tutorial so everyone can learn from our mistakes
Their site says 4-6 weeks delivery. Is that what you are planning on? What they promised?
- SHARPSSHOOTER5090
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CS Receivers
Unfortunatly, I had almost the exact same experance and rude responce with Cold Steel with an AK receiver. However, a friend bought a Romak receiver and it was of very good quality. Just don't every try to correspond with the guy, he is extreamly defensive. In general, I think he builds quality receivers, he just need a little bit better people skills.
Added 4/4/07
To quallify the experance I had with CS was not with the quality of his products, which I stated above is generaly very good. The problem I had was getting my money refunded for a canceled order because of his long delivery time and a lecture from him about I should carefully read his fine print. It took several E-mails to get him to return my money after he missed crediting my account several times on the dates he promised. Again, the receivers he produces are good quality 80% receivers that I would recommend to anyone, its his people skills and how he handled returning my money, that I had a problem with.
Buy a receiver from CS, I don't think you will be dissapointed with the quality.
Added 4/4/07
To quallify the experance I had with CS was not with the quality of his products, which I stated above is generaly very good. The problem I had was getting my money refunded for a canceled order because of his long delivery time and a lecture from him about I should carefully read his fine print. It took several E-mails to get him to return my money after he missed crediting my account several times on the dates he promised. Again, the receivers he produces are good quality 80% receivers that I would recommend to anyone, its his people skills and how he handled returning my money, that I had a problem with.
Buy a receiver from CS, I don't think you will be dissapointed with the quality.
Last edited by SHARPSSHOOTER5090 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:40 am, edited 3 times in total.
SHARPSSHOOTER5090
The shipped blank is exactly what was posted the last time.
I must admit that every customer is encouraged to read our site throughly before ordering so that it is understood that our blanks are intended for the home hobbiest.
We do not manufacture anything until it is paid for and in the event that there is a problem we always work out any problems no matter what they may be.
We are not in the business of arguing with our customers or challenging there knowledge base, in saying that we do not accept our ethics or our customer service to be slammed.
It is true that we are very small and that this is a home based business that is run by only two of us, we tryed to hire help but that did not work out.
We are extremly busy with our family of products and I/we dont get that many breaks to take a breather. As with the volume of orders that we send out there will be on occasion a part that will not meet with someones standard and we accept that and we work with our customers to resolve the situation.
It is our intent to explain with this post what we do and what we are about.
Thank You
Coldsteel
I must admit that every customer is encouraged to read our site throughly before ordering so that it is understood that our blanks are intended for the home hobbiest.
We do not manufacture anything until it is paid for and in the event that there is a problem we always work out any problems no matter what they may be.
We are not in the business of arguing with our customers or challenging there knowledge base, in saying that we do not accept our ethics or our customer service to be slammed.
It is true that we are very small and that this is a home based business that is run by only two of us, we tryed to hire help but that did not work out.
We are extremly busy with our family of products and I/we dont get that many breaks to take a breather. As with the volume of orders that we send out there will be on occasion a part that will not meet with someones standard and we accept that and we work with our customers to resolve the situation.
It is our intent to explain with this post what we do and what we are about.
Thank You
Coldsteel