Shooting off a AA tripod?

[Cpt_Kirks]

How stable is the SA42 when firing off the AA tripod? I used to shoot my 1919 off one and it tended to jump around, even with weights attached. I have heard using an A6 stock helps with the 1919.

Since the SA42 has a stock, is it more stable on the AA?

[Blanksguy]

Cpt Kirks,
With an SA42 (semi-only)....you shouldn't have too much of a problem. Weigh the AA-Tripod down a little so is doesn't fall over if you change hands, etc.

With a FA MG42.......heck, when I put my CRA MG42 on a WWII Lafette-Tripod.....it raises up the front-leg if I DON'T put weight on it. ....at about 25 or more rounds she starts up. This is why you see a lot of WWII Photos of Lafette-Mounted gun with ammo-cans hooked to the support-brackets for the legs (used during movement when tripod is folded).

Regards, RichardS.
Blanksguy2001@chartermi.net

[Sevo]

waht did your FA's cost you guys... IF you dont want to say here you can PM me. I am wanting to add that to my wish list..

regards,
Sevo

[Blanksguy]

Sevo,
MG42 prices are "madness".......period.
I have seen recent prices of $35,000 upwards of $40,000 for your basic gun plus a couple extras......it is crazy.

I paid $14,500 for my CRA MG42 "Bring-Back" with a copy of the bring-back paperwork several years ago. I had turned one MG42 down at $9,000 and others at lesser prices of $7,500-$8,000 years ago (mid-'90s). I couldn't get into Class III ownership any earlier due to being in the "Military" for 20-years.
Other guys on this Board have bought them even cheaper many years ago...or from owners that didn't know what they had (as far as value).

What people/reenactors might think about is getting a SOT/07 Manufacturers License (I hope I got the number correct...if not, someone will let me know)........and if I am not wrong....as long as you stay under $500,000 profit a year your Tax/License is $500 per year? I may be wrong....and maybe someone can contact Phillip Stout about these fees.
Basically, if you devide the price of a C&R MG42 by the $500 (or whatever the License/Tax fees are to BATF) it looks like you end up with less of a total price at the end of 30-years?

There are a lot of requirements with the License......but might be worth looking into because unless they do away with the MG ban added into that 1986 law......or even have a fast 90-day General-Amnesty....."transferable" MG42 prices are going to stay high.

Regards, RichardS.
Blanksguy2001@chartermi.net
PS: And yes........I would rather see the value of my MG42 go way down if they repeal the MG Ban added to that 1986 Law.

[Sevo]

Damn, That is crazy how much they cost. I guess i will need t save a little more than i thought..

[H S Arms]

I am a FFL / SOT and that is one of the reasons I got my license, a lot of hoops to jump through to own machine guns, I don't know how long I will keep my license but it is cheaper than the $40,000.00 MG 42, but a Post Sample will never go up in value compared to a transferable, and you have to get a Demo letter to get one also, not an easy task, but if the Goverment decides to eliminate machine gun ownership you won't be out the $40,000.00 or more. Post Samples are the way to go if you can get the Law Enforcement Letter, a lot of people have tried this game and find it very hard to get Demo letters, if you live in a big city it is just about impossable to get Demo letters unless you are in direct contact with Law enforcement people, and you have to Demo the guns with them which is the fun part. and there is a lot more to it than just getting a FFL / SOT. FWIW. Harry

[Blanksguy]

H S Arms,
Could you shed a little "light" on the differences....and the pros/cons of the "Manufacturers-License" over the "FFL/SOT" ?.....and maybe a little into present costs?...and maybe some of the restrictions of both licenses for us.

I know I would really like to know about both types.

Thanks in advance for any information that you can share.
RichardS.
Blanksguy2001@chartermi.net
PS: How would having a "Class III/07 Manufacturers License"....or FFL/SOT be as far as "reenacting" with WWII Weapons play into any of this if possible?

[Cpt_Kirks]

An 07 FFL and an 02 SOT will allow you to simply build you own FA guns.

Buy a cut receiver, weld it up WITHOUT the semi mods, put the parts together in the receiver (again without the SA mods) and file the ATF paperwork within 24 hours.

Post sampler MG42, ready to rock.

Of course, as H S said, there is more to it. A lot of BS paperwork and inspections and crap. But you are dealing with the government...

[H S Arms]

H S Arms,
Could you shed a little "light" on the differences....and the pros/cons of the "Manufacturers-License" over the "FFL/SOT" ?.....and maybe a little into present costs?...and maybe some of the restrictions of both licenses for us.

I know I would really like to know about both types.

Thanks in advance for any information that you can share.
RichardS.
Blanksguy2001@chartermi.net
PS: How would having a "Class III/07 Manufacturers License"....or FFL/SOT be as far as "reenacting" with WWII Weapons play into any of this if possible?

To have a manufactures license you must have a manufacturing facility, it can be a basement with a milling machine, drill press, disc sander, lathe, maybe not that much but you have to be able to make something from nothing, how little you can get away with I'm not sure, but 1st timers had better have some equipment, and to buy Post Samples you still need the Law Letter, so yes most people could make a Sten or another tube gun, but you need a lot of experiance to make a MG 42 or a MG 34 or a B.A.R. or a number of other guns from parts kits, the manufacturers I know are all machinests, tool makers or have that kind or experiance, and you have to be zoned for manufacturing, and that has to be OKed buy your township supervisor, and you have to file forms for Hazordus waste disposal, and zoned comerical also or get a variance from the township ( they are worried about traffic and such ) and a number of other things also, best bet is to get the Machine Gun Dealers Bible, it will answer most of your Questions, not all but most. Cost $150.00 for 3 years plus $500.00 per year for the SOT.
To be a dealer you have to get the FFL,($200.00 first time for three years $90.00 renewal for three years ) and pay the SOT $500.00 per year. The ATF will come to your place of business and do an interview that takes about two hours, they will check with the Township to see if it is OK for you to have a FFL at your house or business address, you go to the court house and get a small business license (before interview, I think, can't remember for sure, small point anyway) It may help to be a member of a couple of gun clubs in the area, so you can do business as a regular FFL, you still have to sell at least five guns a year to keep your license. The ATF agent will tell you after interview if he is going to recommend to give you a license or not, if you get the license all you do is pay the SOT fee and your a Machine Gun Dealer. Now go get that Demo Letter and you can buy your first machine gun, of course there is more to it than that but you get the idea. Get the Machine Gun Dealers Bible and read it for more info.
Cost of Post Sample Weapons, AK's $200.00 to $900.00 for a Krink, H&K MP5 around $1,000.00, MG 42 $1,000.00, MG 34 $700.00, Sten $200.00, UZI $500.00, M16 about $900.00 new, You still need the Demo letter for all these guns,
I think when my renewal comes up this time I will go to a Manufactorers License, it has taken me a couple of years to get the connections to go to the different license, it is not an easy deal, and I live in the country, I don't know how bad it would be if you lived in a big city. I'm certain I missed some things sorry about that. Hope this helps. Harry. H S Arms.

[CharlieB]

As a former Class 3 in the mid-80's I've been kicking myself a lot lately. Examples: Two FA MG42's, paid $1000 for one, $750 for the other. Sold one a sample for $1250 and the other transferable for $2000 and thought I was robbing the buyers!! Every now and then when I want to feel sorry for myself I take out an old ARMEX sales brochure and remember the good old days!!