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It is somewhat interesting to read the comments on how high the prices are going on these kits. The Bureau of All Things Fun and Entertaining has created a shortage, forcing those interested to pay what the market will bear.
I see many comments on how desperate these guys must be to pay these prices, and how a year ago they cost ......

It would be better if we forgot the negative comments, were happy for getting in when we did, and stop the gloating and back slapping.

These new guys are going to want some help in their work. This is the best (only?) site for this information. Welcome them, even congratulate them, as their population will soon dwindle to zero as the kits really dry up. Those with kits are now a part of a very exclusive population. "newly" constructed semi-42's are bringing what? 4 -5 thousand? For most of us that is a ten fold increase in value for our efforts. For the new guys it is "only" a five fold increase. Ever see stock shoot up 500% in a year?

Put your hand out, help these guys. Quit trashing their willingness to get in on a good thing.

Here, here! Just my two cents but it is nice to see someone that finally acknowledges that we live in a free market economy driven by supply and demand. While none of us will become MG42 Kit Moguls from reselling the kit or two we bought with that little bit of cash we had on hand, the fact that we might make a nice little profit from our investment is a fact created by unelected officials and is not purely a function of our unadulterated greed. I believe if someone wants to spend way more than what I paid for something to buy it from me and if I want to sell it, as long as it isn't illegal I will gladly sell it to them and then spend the money on gasoline that costs too much (lol). Case in point - look at the price of a transsferrable MG42 - $40,000 plus. Ten years ago nobody was paying $7,000.00 and now you cant find one. I see the price of those $500.00 kits we bought going to $2,000.00 or more. As more people become interested in a comodity with a fixed supply, the prices will go nowhere but up. That is basic market mechanics. When I look at ads on Gunbroker where guys are trying to sell what I consider to be junk for high prices, all I can say is 'don't buy it' and if you do, it is your choice how you spend your money - its not the seller's fault that somebody wants to buy his stuff for what I consider to be too much.

Try owning 2 transferable MG42's twenty years ago and selling one for $1000, the other for $1500 and thinking you had just hit the jackpot in Las Vegas!!!!!

well put, even at the newer elevated price for sets you still end up with very little in a good shooter in the end, and anybody gloating (which I havent seen) will end up bieng sorry they sold so cheap in 10 years anyway. I think back 10 years to the guy that thought he bent me over on my NIB reising for $300 , or the guy that sold all those registered HK sears for $250 look whos laughing now

I knew I paid too much!! My Reising with Fed Labs hardcase set me back $350!!!!!

Remember when you could get a 60's Corvette for under a $1000. Heck I had 3 65 Mustangs that I bought for $100 to $200 each. They weren't even hoopties.

I also remember the 1 megabyte hardrive I paid $1000 for and thought I had a deal!!!! $5000 for a early 486 WTF was I thinking.

smoggle wrote: I also remember the 1 megabyte hardrive I paid $1000 for and thought I had a deal!!!! $5000 for a early 486 WTF was I thinking.

Thanks for the humor... glad I wasn't the only one! LOL
Sold my 33 Ford 3 window 20 years ago for $1000.

i can understand the prices for the German WW2 stuff , i wouldn't pay them but i understand why some guys might.
but seeing the Yugo stuff sudden jump up this much in prices is a little weird.

YES were in a drought , everything the importers could cram in country they did before the ATF " interpretation" went into effect.
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YES this site and its members have worked to make it a realistic project ,( building a SA42) that it wasn't when the "old-timers" jumped in with both feet .
I'm sure thats driven the demand for these kits as much as anything.

BUT , theres still future kits out there , they still MAKE these guns , the supply is theoretically huge. theres no legal roadblock to importing more kits without barrels tomorrow. the prices these kits are commanding are probably much more than a FA MG3 would cost NEW from POF . IF prices stay this high i wouldn't be stunned to see MG3 kits just like the m92 krink kits one day.( never fired , demill-ed , sold as kits).
MG3 @ POF

I feel its not the " old-timers " gloating about the great prices they payed so much as trying to stem the panic buying spree caused mostly by misinformation becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. If people will pay that much , then the importers will hold back the supply and charge that much . just like gas.

There are a lot of obsticles to importing more kits in.......some of which are:

1: The UN putting their nose into the surplus weapons market. They are "leaning" on quite a few of those smaller countries to "scrap" the guns into useless steel only good for melting (you notice I did not say cut for import into the USA ?).

2: Just in the USA......look at what was allowed in for these last kits for sale? Do you see complete (DEMILed) receivers with these kits ?....and knowing that the "importer's" and "sellers" know that they could have gotten more with those other piecec. Why then just the barrel-jacket? (...and cut at the front at that). So why ?

3: Supply of kits is drying up overseas......it doesn't matter that quite a few countries are still making the MG3 series weapons. If you look at where those kits might be still stock-piled.....the Europeans are already there. ...and with the UN "leaning" on countries to scrap-weapons.....the costs for those same kits goes up due to availability. You have to know that the overseas sellers are reading the sales prices here in the US and Europe.....correct. They let a little out and see if the price is right....then a little more at a higher price.

4: The "Internet" allows more viewers to see and learn what is available and where to get the best deals.......what use to be a "Shotgun-News" or other gun paper snail-mail thing has more people looking at the availability of these things....and they want them too. More buyers....and less availability equals cost increases......look at IMA's prices.

QUESTION: Why did they start cutting the barrel-jacket of the DP28 Parts-Kits when the barrel-jacket is a separate-part/not a part of the receiver. (IE: It screws onto the end of the DP-28 receiver). Why more and more cuts?...and missing receiver pieces? You may say "it is just scrap"...but they are not letting it into the USA.

It is all a "supply and demand" issue now....and mark my word....."AMMUNITION" will be the next big thing to go up in price. Not because the costs of scrap-brass have gone up from about $.30 a pound to over a $1.00 a pound.....but because of availability of "quality" surplus ammo is going down. .....the shipping costs have gone up (gas-prices), etc.

Regards, RichardS.
Blanksguy2001@chartermi.net
Right now I am sitting on several kits with DEMILed receivers trying to figure out what is going on with the market. (MG42, MG34, DP28, etc.)

I got in now just becuase my finances have changed where I can it wasn't so when when the kits where cheaper. I mainly build FAL's I have bought many kits for under $100.00 and sold them for 3 times that amount. Same with the recievers. I have bought other kits cheap and sold them for more. Now I'm on the other end, its just the cycle of this hobby. If you beat yourself up because you didn't get a good deal then I would think that it would lessen the fun of the hobby. In a few months or a year those like me who have paid higher prices my see an increase but I hope it will decrease. The decrease happens when people buy these kits on a whim and find they lack the skills to finish the project or just get bored with it. They will start selling thier kits and as everyone that has one would have been the buyers in the market there will be less people to sell to or who even want one. The krinkov kits are a good example I saw a kit selling recently for $300.00 something when just a few months ago they were getting $600.00. Its just the cycle if you are lucky to strike when the parts are low great, if not you have to settle in on the market value and that is where we presently find things. I can afford it so it doesn't matter at this present time but that might not be the case in the near future. I personally think the parts will increase in price and probably stay there awhile. This is based on the fact that more SA recievers become available to the average Joe.

Guys today is today and that is what we have to deal with. Lets just stick to helping each other build guns and shoot them.