BRP's SA42

Post by **blckwlfny** » Sat May 13, 2006 7:30 pm

hey guys,
just throwing a query out there
can anyone attest to the reliability of the BRP conversion?
I was planning on maybe getting his parts to use on a s/s converted re-weld

thanks
john

Post by **salt6** » Sat May 13, 2006 7:44 pm

I believe he's out of semi parts kits.

robertmcw · Post by **robertmcw** » Sat May 13, 2006 10:29 pm

Well, I had looked at the BRP guns for a long time. I had bought 2 of the IO kits years ago because I was planning on just keeping them for spare parts when I bought a BRP gun. Then I found this site late last year. After looking over Pirate's tutorial, I decided to reweld a kit instead because I wanted an original gun, not a reproduction. (Not to mention that doing the reweld saves you about $4,000.00.) From looking at BRP's parts online, it looks like it would be as much if not more trouble to weld up one if their kits as opposed to rewelding an original. These guns have a lot of history. Rewelding an original is restoring and preserving a part of history and I have taken special pains to make certain it is restored as closely and as much as possible to original, except of course for the semi mods which aren't even visible from the outside. Remember, the Browning 1919 runs at about 500 rpm while the MG42 is capable of running three times faster. Once somebody devises a decent working crank like Emory did for the 1919 Browning, these guns will once again really rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Abwehr · Post by **Abwehr** » Sun May 14, 2006 5:31 am

I have one of BRP's early SA MG42. When I got it I had some problems with feeding the rounds. I talked to Brian several times and tried his suggestions; nothing worked so he wanted me to send it back. It was gone less than 2 weeks and when I got it back it worked fine.

I have had mine for about 3 years and it has been fun. At least I got in early and the price was MUCH less when I got mine, about 40% less! I do agree with you guys that bought the good kits when they first hit the market with weldable receivers. My problem is I am not a good welder and would not trust the ones I would make for this build, LOL

Post by **blckwlfny** » Sun May 14, 2006 8:56 am

Ive already got a GREAT parts kit and some spares. as far as the quality re-weld, it will be perfect and I have NO reservations about that end of the project.

i was just looking for feedback form any other (thanks abwher) people who have used BRP's design and modified parts (gripstick,bolt etc)
does his design work?

also this re-welded receiver will obviously be modified BEFORE it's completed. does anyone have feedback or experience with using BRP's parts with a re-weld?
thanks
john

Post by **Sevo** » Sun May 14, 2006 9:12 am

blckwlfny wrote:Ive already got a GREAT parts kit and some spares. as far as the quality re-weld, it will be perfect and I have NO reservations about that end of the project.

i was just looking for feedback form any other (thanks abwher) people who have used BRP's design and modified parts (gripstick,bolt etc)
does his design work?

also this re-welded receiver will obviously be modified BEFORE it's completed. does anyone have feedback or experience with using BRP's parts with a re-weld?
thanks
john

I am confused.. why do you need anythig from BRP if you can weld up your own receiver. BRp is high priced. If you want the semi parts pirate sells them for very cheap. He will also do the coversion for you for next to nothing and his work and reputation is top notch..

just my .02
sevo

Post by **drooling idiot** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:18 pm

unless its something specific that only BRP has for sale you want or need i would say find a cheaper source.

I do not believe BRP to be a friend to this site or the home builder.

Post by **FTB1-SS** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:07 pm

I have a BRP semi mg42. The gun just plain works extraordinarily well. I have talked to Brian and feel that he supports the home builder with parts and BATF approved trigger conversions and receiver parts. He has been very helpful to this home builder.

Cpt_Kirks · Post by **Cpt_Kirks** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:16 pm

How does BRP get around 922r?

Are they using any foreign made parts at all?

041x · Post by **041x** » Tue May 16, 2006 6:25 pm

Cpt_Kirks wrote:How does BRP get around 922r?

Are they using any foreign made parts at all?

I beleive importers and manufacturers don't have to follow the 922r standards.

none123 · Post by **none123** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:01 pm

041x wrote:
Cpt_Kirks wrote:How does BRP get around 922r?

Are they using any foreign made parts at all?
I beleive importers and manufacturers don't have to follow the 922r standards.

no thats wrong........everyone must follow 922r.. thats why FN had the US plant

brp is using 4 US parts
receiver
hammer
trigger
disconnect

041x · Post by **041x** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:58 pm

I was wrong. I didn't read it closely enough. You don't have to do the 922r stuff if it is for the US Government

Â§ 478.39 Assembly of semiautomatic
rifles or shotguns.
(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic
rifle or any shotgun using more
than 10 of the imported parts listed in
paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled
firearm is prohibited from importation
under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly
suitable for or readily adaptable to
sporting purposes.
(b) The provisions of this section shall
not apply to:
(1) The assembly of such rifle or
shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed
manufacturer to the United
States or any department or agency
thereof or to any State or any department,
agency, or political subdivision
thereof; or

Post by **FTB1-SS** » Wed May 17, 2006 8:59 pm

Under 922 a mg belt is not considered a high cap magazine by the BATF. But some states have there own definitions like NJ.

Post by **panaceabeachbum** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:26 pm

The semi bolt fom BRP is very nice and well worth the $150 he charges the home builder to swap bolt assemblies, I have over 3k rds one one of his bolt assemblies with zero problems although a few folks have had broken firing pins. The firing pins I bought from BRP look great, 1 piece , nicely heatreated. They do support the home builder but like lots of small companies dont have alot of time to chat on the phone . I talked with Brian about a month ago and he said sept before they would be doing any semi 42 work as that stemple fa tube gun project has them very busy. Since (to the best of my knowledge) no one has an atf approval letter on a build using a rewelded original rec the guys at BRP just dont want to discuss the details of your build and will get down right squirrley if you mention that is(reweld) your intent, I know a few people here incl myself have gotten the lecture ,I think this is where the line of thinking that they are not friendly to the home builder has come from.

Cpt_Kirks · Post by **Cpt_Kirks** » Tue May 23, 2006 11:07 am

FTB1-SS wrote:Under 922 a mg belt is not considered a high cap magazine by the BATF. But some states have there own definitions like NJ.

High cap magazine's had to do with the (expired) AWB. Has nothing to do with anything federal anymore.

922r has to do with building "rifles" using foreign made parts. You can't have more than six foreign made parts.

That is why the SA42 needs to be classified as a "Firearm" instead of a "Rifle".

Post by **panaceabeachbum** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:30 pm

I think 922r says no more than 10 imported parts not 6

Post by **762x51** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:32 pm

To correct some earlier misconceptions regarding the BRP SA MG42, the ATF classified their product a "firearm" and as such BRP does not have to meet the requirements of 922r in the construction of their SA MG42's.

Regards,
Orin

Post by **panaceabeachbum** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:57 pm

Thats good to know, anyone made in progress on getting an approval letter on a rewatt?

Cpt_Kirks · Post by **Cpt_Kirks** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:34 pm

762x51 wrote:To correct some earlier misconceptions regarding the BRP SA MG42, the ATF classified their product a "firearm" and as such BRP does not have to meet the requirements of 922r in the construction of their SA MG42's.

Regards,
Orin

So, the BRP SA42 is a "firearm", but the ones we are making is are "rifles"?

Man, that's pushing it too damn far, even for the BATFE!

How do they justify that crap?

Post by **Ed S** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:42 pm

panaceabeachbum wrote:Thats good to know, anyone made in progress on getting an approval letter on a rewatt?

Just to be clear, what do you mean when referring to a "rewat"?

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