I purchsed this drum and carrier set a couple months ago and would like to know if it is original or refurbed.
The carrier is a darker green than the Yugo green. There is a hint of tan paint under a couple scratches. the carrier is marked wa 43.
The drums are marked hqu 42 and wc 43 and appear to be blued. Were any drums originally blued?
Overall everything is in excellent condition with some minor storage wear.
Thanks for any thoughts.
Do these drums looks like postwar refurbs?
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Re: Do these drums looks like postwar refurbs?
Mind if I ask where you got the carrier & about how much??
- they look great btw!
- they look great btw!
- Panzerschreck
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Re: Do these drums looks like postwar refurbs?
There is a really nice English couple who visit the Chantilly, Virginia gun show. They are from Ryton Arms in the UK. Historically they have sold Thompson parts and I bought a beautiful 1928 Thompson kit from them.
The last time I saw them a few months ago they had the drums and carriers, new belts, starter tabs, excellent ammo cans, new condition lubricant can sets and had sold out of new condition barrel carriers. I believe I paid $150 for the set. They had some early drums with carrier that were $200 for the set.
He was talking about his shopping trips to Eastern Europe and saying the surplus was in a big cave. He would be outside and they would bring up various items for him to buy or not. He would ask if they had certain items and was told this is not a supermarket.
I was hoping to see what new treasures they would have, but did not see them at the last Chantilly show.
The last time I saw them a few months ago they had the drums and carriers, new belts, starter tabs, excellent ammo cans, new condition lubricant can sets and had sold out of new condition barrel carriers. I believe I paid $150 for the set. They had some early drums with carrier that were $200 for the set.
He was talking about his shopping trips to Eastern Europe and saying the surplus was in a big cave. He would be outside and they would bring up various items for him to buy or not. He would ask if they had certain items and was told this is not a supermarket.
I was hoping to see what new treasures they would have, but did not see them at the last Chantilly show.
Re: Do these drums looks like postwar refurbs?
Wow - it sounds like those English folks need to crank up a web-site. One hundred fifty bucks for that set is a steal. Good score!
If you run across them again, get their contact info & post it here ... better yet, send the info to me a PM, LMAO!
If you run across them again, get their contact info & post it here ... better yet, send the info to me a PM, LMAO!
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Re: Do these drums looks like postwar refurbs?
I have one MG34 drum (1940) that had a blued (shiny black) finish that I found under the Yugo Paint. Paint stripper did not harm the black underneath the paint. I painted Feldgrau over it. At least the underlayment on that drum is still original and undamaged. It was the only drum I had that would not strip down to bare metal. Apparently the earlier drums were much higher quality in finish than later ones. Details like the checked area on the release latch were done much sharper and in greater detail than later drums.
You got an excellent deal for that set for $150.00. It appears that the paint was redone though. Anyone else agree?
You got an excellent deal for that set for $150.00. It appears that the paint was redone though. Anyone else agree?
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Re: Do these drums looks like postwar refurbs?
Ryton Arms does have a website.
http://www.rytonarms.co.uk/site/home.php
There is a set(s) listed just like this one for $210.
http://www.rytonarms.co.uk/site/home.php
There is a set(s) listed just like this one for $210.
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Re: Do these drums looks like postwar refurbs?
Wow they sell them cheaper in the USA than they do back home! The number of times I see these listed on evilbay go for over £200 is untrue. I end up shouting at the computer that you can get them for £150 in the shops, ah well a fool and his money and all that.
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Re: Do these drums looks like postwar refurbs?
They are items that have come out of Russian capture storage, and have been refurbished by them, hence the typical Russian green of the drum mag carriers and the patronenkasten that they also sell. They are original wartime and have the stampings etc but in my view better stripped and repainted in a more correct colour. The blued drums are fine as they are, and look pretty cool/evil on MGs as they are practically the same colour and finish....
David
Stimme aus dem sumpf
Stimme aus dem sumpf