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MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:04 pm
by timarmitage
I have been having a discussion with someone regarding the Regler. I have taken apart an MG34 but can only go so far as the plate refuses to come off and I have partially removed the grip and I didn't think I would get it back together again as internally its complicated, so not being brave enough I didn't take it any further. However I think the mechanism has an Umschalter. I enclose a photograph of the mechanism and the barrel jacket extension. Tim

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:42 pm
by 42rocker
Tim
Have you ever taken the gripstick off?? If so I would like to see a picture of the bottom of the receiver. Also a pic of the top of that gripstick.

If not I understand and say Thanks for the pics you are sharing.

Later 42rocker

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:56 am
by timarmitage
Hi will have a go tonight and pull it apart, I have spoken via email with another member who has told me how to get the plate off. So I will attempt this. Tim

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 9:17 am
by 42rocker
Tim
Go slow and lots of Good Luck to you.

Later 42rocker

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:20 pm
by timarmitage
Hi I got the grip off but the plate is on so tight that it would need the application of a hammer to do this. However by looking down into it I can see that it is empty. It was much easier than I had imagined as when I was putting it back together when it was lined up just right it went in and seated with a click. Which is why I suppose that they adopted the MG42 as the machining is so tight.

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:12 pm
by jonathanseverin
Tim,
Congratulations, I think one of the panels I had needed some rigorous persuasion to part company with the grip frame
Have you found any hidden waffenamts or markings?
Kindest regards,
Jonathan.

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:13 am
by 42rocker
Tim
Thanks for those pics.

Later 42rocker

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:54 pm
by timarmitage
Jonathan there seems to be Waffenamt marks on all parts I can see plus some serial numbers. I think these show up in the photographs. If I have time, as I have remembered this week to watch the show, I have come across another cover plate in my collection which I will post.
Tim

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:06 pm
by timarmitage
The Waffenamt mark doesn't come out very well but its WaA11 Tim

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:32 pm
by 42rocker
More good stuff, Thanks

Later 42rocker

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:04 am
by anjongni
Tim (42) It's a regler receiver!
Tim (Armitage) Does the speed-change button operate L/S?
Did the grip have a brake-drum inside?
Did the grip have a regler trigger?
Does the receiver have the long barrel-pushrod?
Does the receiver have any of the components in the rear threaded hole?
We wish we could own it.....congratulations!.............Phil

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 5:29 pm
by timarmitage
Hi as far as I can make out, it is as page 99 vol 1 with an Umschalter. I have poked a screwdriver into the middle of the cover and I cannot feel any parts in there as page 97. Logically I would feel the clockwork mechanism. I think its just one of the uncommon ones that had the mechanism at one time but this was subsequently taken out. The other cover I have photographed is just one from my collection and not the actual one on the gun. Tim

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:06 pm
by jonathanseverin
Hello,
I agree its the Umschalter. Tim I spotted your safety lever is stamped with the rare 5A code.
I luckily have 3 early ones bsw 37 and 38 plus a Mauser 39, all have these early features and all are sadly empty.
I believe only the earliest of the production third variants 1936/7/8? left the factory with adjustable rate of fire parts.
But clearly until 1939 may be early 1940? the receivers were capable of housing these parts but weren't actually fitted.
Jonathan.

Re: MG Regler Cyclic Rate Reducer

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 5:39 am
by olli
Have some pics of my reciver vs a regular reciver. Mine does also have its internals taken away or never been mounted.

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by olli
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