TNW's light trigger pull conversion kit

[m2ball]

Gene,

I can take your trigger and do it in a day and return free of charge. Let me know if you want to meet.

[Gene]

Thanks for the offer, but I had sent it out as soon as I saw the schematic.

[Embalmer]

Well sent my gun to TNW at the end of Sept, to see if they can figure out why the light trigger pull conversion didnt work....

Talk to Lance today, and he determined the problems....

#1 one of the 2 rollers on the trigger was machined wrong and was alrger than the other.... He replaced that

#2 firing spring was very heavy, so he cut out a coil or 2

#3 there were burrs found in the machining of the sear holder that was binding things, and thus were filed off.

#4 the notched sear ring wasnt sitting properly due to a defect in it. that too was replaced.

total cost? 67 dollars shipping lol was a long wait but sure hope it was worth it.

they test fired the gun, and was reported to be a huge difference now. I will have it back early next week, so I can test it to report back then on if they were succesfull or not.

stay tuned

[mgfun]

TNW must be a terrible company. I hav heard so much bad press over the functionality and looks of their reeivers at times.

Then this sad story. You pay for an improved design - not a rushed out original that a start-up company might push out, but an improvement that is incorporated at leisure. Plenty of time to get it right. You pay to get it and then it doesn't work. You send it back - at your significant cost and then find out that in around 6 parts you have 3 quality problems. Not just 1, but 3. And then, what's with the spring - is it consistent or do they expect to be cutting off coils on a bunch of them? Is anybody even looking at these detail parts as they come off the machines?

It must just be me. I have the high expectation that a handful of machined parts should at least bolt together in a nearly correct fashion when new.

With tha track record on parts, they should pay you to take their improved trigger kit.

I know the whole guns seem to work well enough once they get a few down range, but compare the capability required to produce the receiver compared to these little detail parts and tell me they didn't put the 'B' team on this task.

Rant off.

P.S. I hope it works great now, the heavy trigger pull seems to be the one big negative with the SA version and i hope this fixes it.

Regards,
mgfun

[Bil]

In addition to the cotton gin,Eli Whitney is credited for the idea of interchangable parts,where a part for a machine could be picked from a pile of identicle parts,and it would fit.I understand it when a home-made gun needs fitting,but I also don't understand when a product like this needs so much work. ---bil

[Embalmer]

well to be fair, my gun was among the first couple batches made, im sure they are now made alot better than they were when they first came out like mine was

[mgfun]

Embalmer,
Well, that might explain the spring, bu tit still leaves about three new items messed up out of the box. It's hard to talk away all of their mistakes on this one.

And saying they made them originally doesn't exactly give them a free pass. So, I'm not yet pro TNW. Their stroongest feature is that they are the only game in town. The true test is, if you had a choice, would it still be TNW?

Regards,
mgfun

[Embalmer]

Aside of being steep on the price end, Lance and crew has always gone above and beyond to make things right. I think for the most part their products are well made and rugged. I dont have the skill or patience to go through and build my own guns. My mg34 has gone through 1000's of rounds of ammo with maybe a few failures to load. only issue I had was the heavy pull, but is supposed to be fixed. took my tnw 1919 to the range this morning, and began downpouring. thing ran like a champ even with water pouring out of it.

would I buy from them again? yes I would.

[sfso08]

Maybe Helix60 will give us a choice come summer!

[Intruder196]

I think that if they wanted to make things right, they would issue a recall and refit all of their early guns with this new light trigger mod. Similar to what automakers do when there is a flaw discovered.
In part I think they should do this mostly due to the fact that whenever their original style sear wears out the bolt will sometimes fail to stay cocked and the gun will start running in bursts. How would anyone here like to be at a public range, have your gun start firing bursts and then be arrested for having an illegal MG?
I sure wouldnt. In the above scenario it would be up to you to prove you didnt frick with it to get it to run bursts!
Instead of a recall, the choices are a. keep it as is and hope for the best or b. spend even more $$ for a mod that may or may not improve the trigger.

[tomcatshaas]

I would have to agree with most everything said here. Lance goes above and beyond. He always takes my calls. Answers all my questions, no matter how stupid or repetitive they are. And I have talked to guys that have said to Lance "it went full auto" and they will get you out a new sear ring and sear asap. No questions asked.

However, a new version of trigger with a lighter trigger pull would not constitute a recall in my opinion. And also, most companies don't and won't repay your shipping costs both ways. They didn't pay mine. If you remember, or do a search they sent me a turd of a receiver that should of never gone out to anyone except the scrap dealer. They didn't pay my return shipping. They probably should of in my case. Oh, well, its a tax right off for me anyways. If Embalmer gets a working weapon that he is happy with for just $67. in shipping I feel is fair.

I do agree that TNW needs to step up their QA department on receivers and parts. I have had a sear ring and sear with the wrong heat treatment....and of course the turd receiver.But they did make right in both cases.

TC

[Intruder196]

And I have talked to guys that have said to Lance "it went full auto" and they will get you out a new sear ring and sear asap. No questions asked.

Was that within the 1 yr warrantee? I have had mine since 2002, so my warrantee is long expired. Mine came with a feed cover that was too loose and caused feeding jams. They did send a replacement, but the replacement didnt fit the receiver and refused to latch. I ended up buying one off ebay (back before they banned all MG parts) and reselling the one they sent me.
It's just alot of $$ to spend for a product that still has quirks and needs tweaking.

[Embalmer]

Ok wellt he mg34 finally came back, and the new conversion was tested. must say its nice to be able to rapid fire with one finger now, and 2 makes it so much easier. and on the mg3 tripod you can laydown alot of lead and go through a 50 round belt in secs. overall am very plaeased with the conversion.

[oakrodent]

Hello, I am new to this message board but not to building. Last year I bought a receiver and semi auto kit from TNW. They also said they would reblue my kit for $150 but it would need to be totally disassembled. So I did it, cut all new pins and sent it all to them. I later found out the lady who told me to strip it was wrong. When I got it back they totaly assembled it with the light trigger assy. The blueing looked horrible. The new pins were unblued. I have had to alot of grinding inside of my receiver to get things to feed correctly. Lance has been a great help with this thou. I think I have it pretty much figured out. I just ordered another receiver and semi auto kit for another matching MG34 hopefuly this one is a little better.

Who does a nice blueing job?

[oakrodent]

I forgot, My trigger pull is very heavy, go figure

[cbass]

I've read a ton of different threads on ways to make the trigger pull alot easier. Now my SA mg34 is not one from TNW yet one from Project Guns. Im curious to know if it can be modified the same as the TNW mg34's?