P08 m.tasche kiste

[untenbeschuss]

Hello-
I'm a new member to this forum, to test uploading pictures, and add to my number of posts, I thought I'd put up some photos of the woodwork and laser work I've built.

[roadrunner]

Greetings Untenbeschuss, Your woodworking is very nice. Tell me, is the image of the soldier and sturmgewehr a laser etching? If so. Wow! Impressive detailing. Welcome to the site. RR
p.s. nice luger too.

[42rocker]

Very nice wood work.

Later 42rocker

[untenbeschuss]

Herr Leutnant Roadrunner, und Herrn Feld Marshal 42Rocker. Thanks, I appreciate your kind comments and time taken to post. Yes, that is a laser engraving, I have some software that will take most images and convert them into data that a laser can use to engrave in wood. It works best in images that are black and white, and have good detail and contrast. The Luger box, or "P08 m. Tasche kiste" is a replica I made of the box the Germans used for their merchant marine Captains, the hook clasp was made in a way so that a wire seal would keep the crew from getting into it without the skipper knowing. The Sturmgewehr image I did as a part of a project for my GSG STG 44. Those come in a nice pine box, but I thought the lid needed a little more detail, so I did a couple with the Deutshe Adler Waffenamt, and weapon identification on the outside of the lid, and the image you see, went on the inside of the lid, along with the designer name, ( Hugo Scmeisser ) and the manufacturer.

[K98dkmauser]

hey could ya make a k98 box

[untenbeschuss]

hey could ya make a k98 box

Hi, thanks for reading this thread. To answer your question, along what lines, replicating an original, as the P08 box is? Or, mixing in art work, as the GSG STG44 is that I mentioned? I did in fact just put up a website to see if there is a market for this kind of product. P08Luger.com

[42rocker]

Well Good Luck with your new idea and website.

http://p08luger.com/Home_Page.php

This should provide a more direct link.

Also something else to think about is several nice common designs that could be applied to "box tops" where we build (no shipping) the box and you provide a nice "box top" covered with art work that we add to the box. Battle scene and or weapon details. The limit of your burning size could be an issue but several scenes next to each other could cover that. Even thin "skins" that could be added. Thoughts.
I'm thinking MG42 or MG34 storage / carry box that we build (keeping costs down) and then adding your top to it. Of course your top would have a cost to it. But a nice top would be way to cool.

Some thoughts.

Later 42rocker

[untenbeschuss]

Thanks 42rocker. They say, work with what you enjoy doing, so, I'm trying to see if I can turn a hobby into something to do towards retirement, and buy ammo.

Ok, if I follow you, you are suggesting a transit chest of sorts, supplied in kit form, the buyer doing the assembly. I would provide the kit, and either do the laser engraving to a generic labeling, images pre-provided, or a workable image provided by the customer?

That is along the lines I'd thought of, though I'd thought of only doing the lids, the complete chest isn't that much of a stretch, as long as I had the correct dimensions to start with. Question, what do you think the market would be for that? I have another small business, producing TSMG barrels, and I additionally offer custom machining. I'm often puzzled at what some people think I can do the work for, some seem to think I can do the work for the cost of materials alone. Wood is surprisingly expensive these days, I provide the image file, but pay to have the laser engraving done, so what would you thing the market would pay for something as described above?

Attached are some images of my work so far.

[42rocker]

What I was talking about is like the bottom pic. You provide NEAT box lid and we make the bottom storage area how we want. Or you could do complete box. Or kit form. I know that there is going to be cost on your end so if you provide top and we provide bottom your selling price might be less and then it might be something that we can afford. I'm sure that your cost would be low but.

Neat Photos Ideas. Could you do it on like a door skin?
Waiting to hear how this goes.

Later 42rocker

[untenbeschuss]

"Neat Photos Ideas. Could you do it on like a door skin?
Waiting to hear how this goes."

Later 42rocker

Thank 42rocker. Costs would depend on thickness and type of wood, what you see is pine. If you would, give me an example of what you would consider neat, so that i could estimate time/cost both in programming/dimensioning, and lasering.

Regards you asking about a door skin, the laser won't do metal, not at the power output my source has, it will cut plastic to a 1/4 inch thickness, etch glass, and he does cut vinyl that will adhere to metal, as in, he does the vinyl you see on vehicles that advertise their business. I'm not sure if thats what you'd meant by doorskin, but to give you an idea of what the laser he has is capable of. The glasses are neat, I've had him do several of them, and I'll post some pictures of what his laser is capable of regards etching plastic. Like I mentioned above, I have an interest in the Thompson SMG, and put together some artwork/programmed, and had him etch plastic to make a lampshade for an enlarged 1921 TSMG barrel I turned up out of black plastic, and cherry wood for the base.

[untenbeschuss]

We've been talking about MG34 box lids out of wood, I know. but per my previous post, below is the TSMG lamp I did. It might give someone reading this thread an idea and demonstrate what the laser is capable of, I'll put up the photos of the glasses I had laser etched later, they're in the dishwasher, it was the end of the workweek last night

[42rocker]

What do I mean by a door skin. Old term like I'm getting to be.
So this is close -- 1/8 In. x 4 Ft. x 8 Ft. Plywood cost about $12.00 per sheet local big box store.
If you were to burn a picture of something like

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MG-42-MG42-Germ ... 1050080887

about say 1ft by 4ft then we glue, screw or whatever to the top of our transit box or footlocker or ?? There are several pictures of MG42 gunners or MG34 gunners in action that could be done also. Like the one that you posted.
I'm guessing that there are several nice pics, drawings etc on this site that could also be used. Did not look, wife has me going someplace in a few minutes. So Good Luck

Nice Lamp project.

Later 42rocker

[untenbeschuss]

[quote="42rocker"]What do I mean by a door skin. Old term like I'm getting to be.
So this is close -- 1/8 In. x 4 Ft. x 8 Ft. Plywood cost about $12.00 per sheet local big box store.
If you were to burn a picture of something like

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MG-42-MG42-Germ ... 1050080887

about say 1ft by 4ft then we glue, screw or whatever to the top of our transit box or footlocker or ?? There are several pictures of MG42 gunners or MG34 gunners in action that could be done also. Like the one that you posted.
I'm guessing that there are several nice pics, drawings etc on this site that could also be used. Did not look, wife has me going someplace in a few minutes. So Good Luck

Nice Lamp project.

Thanks, and I gotcha now on a doorskin, I'd been recently asked, via the website if, me and the laser guy, could do metal, so, my old brain, ( can't be too far behind you ) leapt to a metal door. His machines' work envelope is about 20" by 26" in a continous image. More, if it is text, and he can flip and end for end it.( because of the gaps in text ). For thickness, 1/8 inch is pretty thin, ie. warpable, crackable, I've used 1/4 inch so far.

[42rocker]

1/4 inch would work for me. Looking forward to your thoughts ideas and prices.
If push comes to shove, two 20 by 26 side by side works out to 20 by 48 with some cut out for over lap.
Don't think that you can normally laser to the very edge, can you??
Whatever, throw some numbers out there for something and lets go from there.

Later 42rocker

[untenbeschuss]

The picture above, that has the inside of the Sturmgewehr lid, the one with the soldier posing with the STG44, is a seperate piece from the lid itself, the image is on a 1/4' piece of pine plywood that is glued to the lid. As you can see then, it's a lased image out to the very edge(s). The downside of plywood, is that the edges are very brittle, and prone to splitting cracking, you have to be very careful at all times, and over time, unless properly treated, will, due to changes in humidity/dryness, begin to crack on its own. Not lasing out to the edges would help, still, plywood, isn't at its best with exposed edges, you could put some type of edging around it, or, I've considered using a piece of wood, as in, not plywood, the cost goes up, but, for longevity, it would be superior to plywood. Let me get with a wood supplier, and check on pricing of non-plywood. Please get back with me for a desired length and width, keeping in mind a continous image is limited to 26 inches. Your example of the ebay listing, showed 2 views, using that as an example, you could do both, seperately, and make them sized so that they fit between the stays on the lid of the MG34 transit box.

[untenbeschuss]

42rocker-
After calling around, finally found a source of solid pine, and poplar ( which is a bit cheaper and likely has fewer knots ). At 1/4 inch thickness solid woods come in maximum width of 11.25 inches, length not an issue. Pricey, a piece of pine 11.250 x 24 inches would be over $25 just for the wood, poplar over $18.