Sarco M53 kits

Post by **johnnymg** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:18 am

whats delivery time for sarco been lately??

Village · Post by **Village** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:43 am

Johnny, they quoted me two weeks on my order for two kits. Said they were really swamped.

bruteforce · Post by **bruteforce** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:33 pm

Anyone know the threading on the booster end of the MG42? Trying to make a replacement piece for the torched end....

BF

-M60_Gunner- · Post by **-M60_Gunner-** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:22 pm

I have one I'm selling. Check your PM

Post by **johnnymg** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:32 pm

specifications for the treaded section would be nice for all of us wanting to try to make the part, I am sorry if this has been addressed allready.
Johnnymg

Sledge303 · Post by **Sledge303** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:57 pm

-M60_Gunner- wrote:With SARCO being the only game in town as far as kits go they could very well be arseholes, instead they are stand-up guys.

Thanks SARCO

Actually, it has just come to my attention that "Military Gun Supply" is offerring the same sort of deal on the Yugoslavian M53 parts sets. Here is the link:
http://www.militarygunsupply.com/shop/i ... d=PKMGYU01

Post by **URAR1004** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:07 pm

Sounds like there are enough M53 parts kits to go around and then some. I don't need any more, but the more parts around the better!!! Century, Centerfire, Weaponeer.net, Military Gun Supply, and Sarco Have lots of kits!

Village · Post by **Village** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:32 pm

Woah, the front of the shroud on the MGS kit looks unmolested! I should have ordered from them.

EDIT: Sorry, turns out they are not. Just got off the phone with MGS and they said the front threading and receiver parts are definately torched off and do not come with the kit, despite what the photo shows of the threaded shroud.

Post by **drooling idiot** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:41 pm

Village wrote:Woah, the front of the shroud on the MGS kit looks unmolested! I should have ordered from them.

don't believe that picture
they're selling Yugo parts but pictured a German kit.
how do i know ?
no crest on top cover
German front AA sight
the barrel door latch is a screw not a rivet
the barrel door is missing the tab the Yugos added

Village · Post by **Village** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:44 pm

Thanks DI. I'm now going to sit happy, waiting on my Sarco order!

LAWMAX · Post by **LAWMAX** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:30 pm

Hello,
Another new member here.
I ordered a SARCO kit last Friday and am patiently waiting.
Guess I will be reading up on the build.
Thanks for all of the posted info.
LAWMAX

Post by **gdmoore28** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:09 pm

Here are the specs for a replacement barrel bushing sleeve. If you manufacture a working one, be sure to post pics of the results. Good luck.

GeeDeeEmm

Traveler57 · Post by **Traveler57** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:08 am

Yeah, I got a bit confused by the MGS photo too. I thought I had learned all about proper BATF cuts, and then their picture didn't make sense. Thanks DI for clearing that up.

rocco1911 · Post by **rocco1911** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:55 pm

Has anyone ordered a kit from MGS is there kit cut the same as the Sarco Kits? you never know

there listing them for $200.00

Sledge303 · Post by **Sledge303** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:06 pm

rocco1911 wrote:Has anyone ordered a kit from MGS is there kit cut the same as the Sarco Kits? you never know :? there listing them for $200.00

Since the M53 sets from SARCO, C.F.S. and MGS all are coming from the same importer you can expect to get the same thing no matter where you order from.
Only variationis that the importer has TWO BATFE approved de-mil instructions. Mainly the difference concerns the angle of the de-mil cuts.
Hope that info saves someone a $200 "Fishing trip"!!

rocco1911 · Post by **rocco1911** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:52 pm

Yes I under stand thats what i meant there will be barrel booster pieces to be had if there cut different one could remove the old stamped portion and chuck it in a mill lathe and ream it smooth so as to slide into the Sarco cut Receiver and walla you have your booster and an extra set of parts to boot

Sledge303 · Post by **Sledge303** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:36 am

rocco1911 wrote:Yes I under stand thats what i meant there will be barrel booster pieces to be had if there cut different one could remove the old stamped portion and chuck it in a mill lathe and ream it smooth so as to slide into the Sarco cut Receiver and walla you have your booster and an extra set of parts to boot

OK, just to clarify. The importer has two BATFE approved de-mil patterns. They are not much different, mainly the angle of the cuts and a slight change of where some cuts start.
However, and I think this is key, the importer disposes of the cut off barrel bushing and the rear parts of the receiver. So, no matter what retailer you buy Yugo M53's from, those receiver parts and barrel bushing are gone.

Little Rhody · Post by **Little Rhody** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:40 pm

GDMOORE, you posted this schematic, but I see a few things missing from it, such as the thread data needed, and I also I don't see a notation for the proper clearance to remove the bareel. Please see my atchaed pics of an original part I removed from a demilled kit.

I'm not trying to call you out, but this data could help somone at home that may have the capability to produce there own part. I just want everyone to be aware of this. If any one has the needed specs please post them here to help our hobby.

Also I'm guessing this schematic was measured from an original part and not the one Wiselite is building. This one seems to have more shape than the aftermarket one.

Thanks for the schematic.

ADDED: I just measured the thread count, it is 16 tpi, I dont know the pitch ot the depth.

Post by **resting** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:13 pm

Thanks for the detailed info on kits received. I'm a

on this board but intend to order a kit and build so this all helps. Probably call to place an order tomorrow. If money weren't too much of a problem would it be worthwhile to go for a 3 kit deal then sort through the parts to pick the best for one good gun?

Post by **gdmoore28** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:12 pm

Little Rhody wrote:

GDMOORE, you posted this schematic, but I see a few things missing from it, such as the thread data needed, and I also I don't see a notation for the proper clearance to remove the bareel.

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Hi L.R. -- and welcome to the board. It's been entertaining and interesting to read your and your friend's posts. You guys go after it full steam ahead don't you?

I'm looking forward to reading your posts as you all start assembling your SA42s. I'm betting you will come up with some good alternate build proceedures from those already outlined here.

I didn't post the thread specification for the barrel bushing sleeve because I haven't been able to find them. I've seen requests for the specs before, but I've yet to see them posted. I'm not building my own sleeve -- bought mine from Wiselite -- so I haven't made any extraordinary efforts to find the specs. My friend had a machinist build a replacement sleeve, though, and the machinist bought the proper die to thread it. If nobody posts the specs for you soon, I will try to contact the machinist and get the specs for you.

Regarding the "divet" that you pictured, my original demil sleeve has that bevel machined into it too, and I have pictures of other originals that have it. But the replacement sleeves from Wiselite don't have the bevel. I ASSume that it may not be necessary. The Wiselite replacement sleeve is pictured from the same angle as the demilled sleeve piece that you pictured.

GeeDeeEmm