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Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:34 pm
by hakentt
Just want to be informed on pricing of semi mg42/m53 now in 2017. It looks like the only retailer WLA has two in stock for $5200 plus shipping. Rest are used ones sold all over different forums and auctions with different pricing.
It looks like 'hack job' S.A M53 is going for about $3000 and quality build german ww2 S.A MG42 is going for $6000 and the rest fall in between. Are my findings right?

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:49 am
by blackreichswehr
what do you mean by "hack job" ?

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:58 pm
by hakentt
blackreichswehr wrote:what do you mean by "hack job" ?


Welded up receiver where weld beads are still visible, welded up rails

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:34 pm
by hakentt
This forum is dead :?

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:58 pm
by Sw1ngK1ng
What do you think a quality home built mg53 with a nice finish would go for with no extras?

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:33 pm
by hakentt
Sw1ngK1ng wrote:What do you think a quality home built mg53 with a nice finish would go for with no extras?


$800

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:03 am
by jbaum
hakentt wrote:
Sw1ngK1ng wrote:What do you think a quality home built mg53 with a nice finish would go for with no extras?


$800


Well, that's the hakentt that we all remember.

$3,000 would be closer to reality.

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:30 pm
by Sw1ngK1ng
jbaum wrote:$3,000 would be closer to reality.


Still wish that number was higher too lol. They take so much time to build.

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:03 pm
by jbaum
I don't do the semi 42s, so it may well be worth more. Gunbroker would be a good place to watch to see what the latest selling prices are. For a full auto, it's around $40,000.

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:35 pm
by Sw1ngK1ng
jbaum wrote:I don't do the semi 42s, so it may well be worth more. Gunbroker would be a good place to watch to see what the latest selling prices are. For a full auto, it's around $40,000.


I see a lot of guns sell for far higher than their real value on there so if I ever do sell that will probably be where. One day I hope to have a full auto but they may be completely banned by time that day comes.

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:57 pm
by hakentt
jbaum wrote:I don't do the semi 42s, so it may well be worth more.


Full auto MG42 is not fun, I see few guys on the gun range always get frustrated, it never runs smooth, it will rip 10 rounds then stop, then do 20 then stop, then do 5 then stop, by the end of the day they wasted 1000 rounds and were dirty as mechanics clearing all the fail to cycle, fail to eject, fail to fire problems. This all may be do to inconsistent Romanian surplus ammo. They were changing all the parts back and forth and still same problem. And it is not the only FA MG that I have see with same problem.

Semi auto MG42 is more fun, at least mine never stops with newer production FMJ ammo, I assume it is more reliable because there is more time between each round, harmonics smooth out.

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:43 pm
by jbaum
They're fun when they run right.

I've had my MG42 for 20 years, and have not experienced any problems getting it to run well. I don't run 40 year old junk ammunition in it either, so you may well have spotted the reason for one gun to run poorly (the full auto), and another to run well (the semi). Bad fuel can make any engine run poorly. You're right, good ammo in a semi will run better than bad ammo in a full auto, but that doesn't make the semi auto good and the full auto bad.

It seems odd that you recognize a problem with the ammunition, yet blame the gun because it's full auto. The inability of the owner to get the gun to run right when all they do is swap parts while they still feed it the same junk ammo, is a pretty good indication that it isn't the gun parts causing the problem. It would seem from your statements, that the MG42 owners don't know what they're doing, and I'd have to agree with that. Some that I've met, don't, but it's not somehow the fault of the gun, as the gun isn't the one buying junk ammo. Siphoning gas from cars in a junk yard to put in a classic high performance car is counter-intuitive on many levels, and so is running surplus junk ammunition in a $40,000 gun. You wouldn't do it, neither would I. Some people, on the other hand, would buy a 707 HP Hemi Hellcat, and complain about the cost of gas and try to run it on regular.

The harmonics smooth out? That's precious.

Re: Pricing of semi MG/M53 now in 2017?

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:10 am
by hakentt
jbaum wrote:I've had my MG42 for 20 years, and have not experienced any problems getting it to run well. I don't run 40 year old junk ammunition in it either

It seems odd that you recognize a problem with the ammunition, yet blame the gun because it's full auto. The inability of the owner to get the gun to run right when all they do is swap parts while they still feed it the same junk ammo, is a pretty good indication that it isn't the gun parts causing the problem. It would seem from your statements, that the MG42 owners don't know what they're doing, and I'd have to agree with that.


That Romanian ammo in spam cans is pretty consistent and known good ammo. What is the other choice? You got to run military spec FMJ and as far as I know there aren't any imported into US, and the ones that are imported are for hunting. Guys at the range had different weight bolts, spings, different size booster parts. FA needs a sweet spot, you got to be lucky and have it all matched up. Even WLA does this with their Semis, they keep changing parts until it runs right.

I got few questions for you. Yugo military manual does now show anti bounce spring for the bolt. I wonder did M53 all come with this part? What are the sizes of Yugo booster cone assembly? Main spring length? Bolt weight? Talking about FA