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Postby pdstout » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:54 pm

Hello guys,
My name is Philip Stout most guys call me by my nick name (Pete) .

The welding I can do is for the 3 and 4 cut receivers. I can only take them so far. The welds will be finished, cocking handle fitted, buffer fitted, top cover and feed tray fitted,and it will be ready to be completed by the owner into a dummy or a semi. NO FULL AUTO fire control parts will fit.
I can not put the rails or cam piece on. I will extend the grip slot, and drill the bolt stop hole. I can also tack in a bolt stop that the final builder will have to remove. Thus making it 80%. The cost for the welding is:
$400.00 for 3 cut receivers,and
$450.00 for 4 cut.
If anyone needs any more information please email me at mailto:philipstout@hotmail.com
Thanks, P. Stout (Pete) 07FFL/SOT


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Postby MauserMatt » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:21 pm

As soon as I sell a pistol I don't need anymore (Glock 19) then I'll be contacting you to weld up my 3 cut receiver... WOO!! Can't wait!

(Or maybe you'd consider a trade?) ;) Worth a try.. :)
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Postby IMBLITZVT » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:14 pm

Email sent from mailto:phiteshe@vt.edu. Please let me know if you do not get it!

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Postby drooling idiot » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:30 pm

Pete i think your going to be a very busy man.
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Postby Der Stahlhelm » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:14 am

email sent ........... thanks

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Postby striker754 » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:17 pm

Have you submitted an "80%" receiver to ATF for classification? I'm just curious as to how tacking a bolt stop in makes it 80%. Seems like there is very little work required to make a receiver out of this 80%

Or are you transferring these through an FFL?

Just curious, dont want to ruin anyones parade, but ATF problems is the last thing anyone needs.

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Postby robertmcw » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:51 pm

I sent one in for rewelding and had to send it back for some tweaking. After I get it back, I will take some pictures of it on the tripod with some strings down the middle and the sides to show off Pete's quality of work.

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Postby TOM R » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:13 am

there are no rails in it so not functioning, also the grip slot gets elongated so fa grip won't just drop in, just a few items as I understand it
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Postby striker754 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:36 pm

It's ATF's determination as to what constitutes a firearm. Sure the rails aren't installed so the gun cant function. That doesnt mean it isnt easily converted to a working firearm.

An AK receiver with the trigger pin holes filled with weld is still probably an FFL item. The amount of work to turn the item into a functioning firearm matters.

Not trying to interfere with anyones doing, i just would like everyone involved to take a look at what they are doing and maybe submit a sample to ATF. would hate to see anyone go to jail for selling firearms across state lines, or otherwise just have a general hassle with atf

Because as I see it, putting in the rails is easy and removing a tack weld on a bolt stop is easy too.

Just my 2 cents

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Postby pdstout » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:03 pm

Rails Easy? I wish I could do them easy. It takes me about 3 or 4 hours from start to finish.
The Trunion is not set. It has to be fitted. That is the heart of the receiver. There is no Barrel return. It has to be fitted. The grip slot has been cut out. No full auto parts will fit.
There is still alot of work left to do, to build a firing SA42.
It would be hard to say how long it would take to build a SA42 from the 80% receiver. I have never built one. I have built several full auto post samples. It takes at least 50 or 60 hard hours from start to finish.
What is a firearm? You can put a shotgun shell in a pipe and fire it. Is that a firearm?
I do not want to get in to trouble, or anyone else.
There is LOTS of work to do to a 80% receiver, other than rails and tack weld removal.
P. Stout 07FFL/SOT

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Postby striker754 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:22 pm

Rails didnt take me long. Just pop the backer in there, bolt it in, rivet with the tig torch one at a time. you could even weld them in faster.


no barrel return? whats that? the recouperator?

what is involved in setting the trunion? All i had to do was shave the receiver down some to get it to fit.

We are talking about the receiver. Just what the receiver itsself needs to be considered a firearm. Semi auto mods like the bolt and gripstick don't figure into this. If they did, then every AK receiver would be an 80%, as the rest of the firearm is relatively tough to construct.

Im just sayin, stay safe and cover yourself so you dont have to mess with ATF. The gun does NOT have to fire to be considered a firearm. The receiver is considered the firearm.

Keep up the good work.

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Postby TOM R » Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:05 pm

well striker look at it this way brp corp was selling recievers 80% that were new made ready to go all you had to do is knock out a piece of tin tacked at the ejector port and install the rails and you were good to go so this is the same amount or more work to get running, i am sure stout has thought this through since it is his manufacturers license on the line if he is wrong :)
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Postby striker754 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:20 pm

I hope he has. The BRP is a different receiver though, they use, i am assuming, a different bolt block. It shouldnt matter, but its the ATF.

And no offense to anyone, but jjust having an FFL/SOT does not mean one knows the laws. Look at Scott Cousino over on 1919, he cant even figure out what the trigger of a firearm is.

I know he has probably thought it through, just wanting everyone to be safe from the govt.

I do love your work stout, nice welds

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Postby robertmcw » Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:34 am

Thank you Demon, took the bla right out of my mouth. :D

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Postby striker754 » Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:01 am

striker754
you've said your piece and got your answers, its time to let it go.

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Postby Demontrooper » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:35 am

Pete, what can you do with a complete receiver missing the cam peice? Can you fabricate that and what is the charge? I think that lately the new world of receivers will be mostly missing the cam sections. If I fabricate one (with correct dimesions etc) will you weld it on? I think now the gun will be a 5 cut...
I'm asking this question here because I think alot of us late comers are going to be in the same boat as I am.

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Postby drooling idiot » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:08 pm

your missing a cam piece ?
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or do you mean the rear buffer section of the receiver ?
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Postby none123 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:10 pm

drooling idiot wrote:your missing a cam piece ?
or do you mean the rear buffer section of the receiver ?


I'm 99% sure he is missing the cam section of the receiver. IIRC all he has a M53 barrel shroud and a IMA rear

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Postby drooling idiot » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:08 pm

ah, now i see .... says the blind man.
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