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Roccos Grip differances and comparison Tutorial

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:08 pm
by rocco1911
OK here we go you will see a series of pictures of the AR15 Grips on the market I am showing 4 different types that are available out there first up is all 4 in series of usefulness IMO yours may differ but bear in mind I have built quite a few of these I have 8 completed working guns & have assisted others in building them for several years.

Below is all 4
BRP on top followed by an old style wiselite then a Thompson Machine and last a new style wiselite

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:12 pm
by rocco1911
Here is a view of the BRP one these are the best for a Re-weld of an original German or Yugo kit that has the rear section

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:15 pm
by rocco1911
Another view of the BRP showing front attachment area

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:19 pm
by rocco1911
Next up is the Old Style wiselite these were the best for this type build but unfortunatly they decieded to change the design these were a 4 count on the 922r issue as well.

Notice if you will the position of the hammer when in the fired position it will mean a big difference later on...

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:23 pm
by rocco1911
A few more old style wiselite...

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:33 pm
by rocco1911
Next we have the Thompson Machine PPB Grip I obtained this one from a friend in a trade it was originaly an AR15 grip style & it looked like crap on a mg42 in my opinion so I did my own modification & installed an original MG42 grip section on it.

OK if you look close you will see a marked difference in the position of the hammer when in the fired position

Bad jou-jou

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:36 pm
by rocco1911
Here are some more pics of it

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:44 pm
by rocco1911
Next up I show the area you need to remove to get your hammer to make contact with the firepin

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:45 pm
by rocco1911
Now a side by side comparison of the 2 so you can see the difference in contact area

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:48 pm
by rocco1911
And finally the New style wiselite

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:51 pm
by rocco1911
A few more of the new style wiselite that is for there style receiver only

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:10 pm
by rocco1911
And that concludes the Grip Stick lineup I hope this helps out :mrgreen:

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:25 pm
by masterangler-01
Is it possable to remove too much metal from the Thompson grip? Mine doesn't look like yours before you removed the metal. It actually looks close to it after the modification. Can you have too much hammer travel?

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:36 pm
by waffendude
wow ---Thats good info to know --thanks rocco :D

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:37 pm
by www.Prussia.us
Hey Rocco,

VERY useful grip tutorial, such honest and straight-forward public service announcements are vital to good builds.

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:00 pm
by rocco1911
masterangler-01 wrote:Is it possable to remove too much metal from the Thompson grip? Mine doesn't look like yours before you removed the metal. It actually looks close to it after the modification. Can you have too much hammer travel?


No you want travel as much as possible & heavy hits...

I only use heavy hammer springs in all my builds you may be hitting the top inside of the bolt extension if your travel is ok out of the gun do you have a viewing slot cut in the top of the Bolt extension that you could see if the hammer is making contact with the FP ???

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:20 am
by Bil
Rocco-you have turned into a regular Perfesser!Nice work! :D :photos: ---bil

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:12 pm
by rocco1911
Thanks bil I'm planning on posting up a IMA rear re-weld tutorial as well but I'm so busy lately I need some time off to work on it its alot of pics step by step & typeing to finish it.... But I'll get to it :mrgreen:

Re: No Primer Strikes Grip Pics

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:14 pm
by rocco1911
While I'm @ it I think I'll do a Oakrodant/BRP front AA site install segment
I have some quick tips to doing them.... :lol:

Re: Roccos Grip differances and comparison Tutorial

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:05 am
by Bil
This thread has been moved to the MG42 build it yourself section,retitled,and moved into the announcement section.For some reason I couldn't make it a sticky.Maybe DA can do it,it works for his magazines! :shock: ---bil