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Slamfires

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:49 pm
by big steve
What all can cause them?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:19 pm
by TOM R
fire pin stickin fp ext sticking, is the hammer resetting?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:07 pm
by big steve
Yes the hammer is resetting.How do you stop them from sticking? Yes they are lubed well with breakfree.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:14 pm
by ak47dennis
Most slam fires are caused by either the firing pin being to heavy or the firing pin spring not being stiff enough, not cause the hammer isn’t resetting or the pin sticking :roll:

Some commercial primers are weak and can be subject to slam fires, milsurp primers are usually hard.

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:33 am
by drooling idiot
whose bolt set up are you using :?:

i know one of them uses two different sized washers on the firing pin to support the ejector. If its inserted back-wards when assembled it will bind on the ejector and slam fire when the bolt carrier goes forward against the bolt-head.

could it be miss assembled :?:

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:32 pm
by panaceabeachbum
Another problem I have seen is not relieving the buffer retaining bolt for the amount of protrusion of firing pin from rear of bolt, will/can cause firing pin to jam/stick forward

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:38 pm
by big steve
It's Pirates bolt stuff and the large washer is forward, closest to the FP with the spring against it. I'm betting on the spring not being strong enough. I cut too much off the original springs and have gone to a spring that feels even stronger but I need to make sure. I am still getting pretty deep primer strikes on south african 308. Not so deep that it pushes the primer back or anything but deeper than they have to be. When I first shot it, the extension was too long from the small washer to the FP witch kept the FP from retracting enough into the bolt head. I trimmed it until with the rollers out and the bolt mechanism fully compressed it is recessed back in the hole about .030 in. Is this enough? And yes I milled about a 1/4 in relief in the buffer screw. I will check to see if this enough though, Thanks P-bum

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:25 pm
by gunslingerdoc
Another area to look at is your grip stick....

If the hammer/trigger pin holes are over sized, there may be enough space/slop for the hammer to skip over/bounce out of its engagement with the sear. If the holes were drilled with standard sized bits - be careful and the originals were/are metric.

I spent hours thinking a slam fire problem I had was related to the FP/bolt when it was really related to the grip stick.

Another issue can be using standard sized pin stock instead of Metric - you can get the same slop. I think some of the 'kits' solkd on this board at one time were coming with pins undersized.

Check you grip stick before you spend too much time beating yourself up looking in the bolt/FP.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:29 pm
by big steve
After lots of trips to the range I think I found my problem. The firing pin hole is drilled crooked in my bolt head causing the pin to bind up in the locking wedge. I mean its way off! When I stand the bolt head up on the table and put the pin in it cants a half a hole to the left at the back of the pin. And binds when you slide the wedge over it. And before you ask yes the hole in the wedge is straight and yes the pin is straight. It's a yugo bolt head. I'm calling Dan monday for a new one and think that will fix it. (I HOPE) I just thought I would put this on in case anyone else runs in to this.
Big Steve